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Post by Nukes on Jan 30, 2016 16:34:29 GMT
So i have this dilemma. I love rounds, i love flats.
Sometimes im playing rounds and instantly i know the song and the groove would be better served by flats.
Other times, the reverse is the case.
Perfect example:
Temptations Shaky Ground
On this tune, which is a closet Parliament tune, Billy Bass Nelson lays down a killer pizz (plucked) groove, and switches off to the B Part, one of the most iconic slap and pop licks EVER.
My Martinson 5 is sporting Sadowsky flats (repackaged Labellas).
They are perfect for everything except the pop parts of a slap figure.
My theory is this:
What if i kept the Sadowsky flats on B E and A, and put HiBeams or Rotos On the D and G?
Tunes like Shaky Ground would work, and the lows would stay smooth.
Thoughts?
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Post by Strider on Jan 30, 2016 16:51:56 GMT
It'd work, but I wouldn't personally like the disconnect in feel across the strings.
Can you not just use a set of rounds and set up a filter to smooth them out for the "flat" sections?
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Post by OOD on Jan 30, 2016 17:10:00 GMT
So i have this dilemma. I love rounds, i love flats. Sometimes im playing rounds and instantly i know the song and the groove would be better served by flats. Other times, the reverse is the case. Perfect example: Temptations Shaky Ground On this tune, which is a closet Parliament tune, Billy Bass Nelson lays down a killer pizz (plucked) groove, and switches off to the B Part, one of the most iconic slap and pop licks EVER. My Martinson 5 is sporting Sadowsky flats (repackaged Labellas). They are perfect for everything except the pop parts of a slap figure. My theory is this: What if i kept the Sadowsky flats on B E and A, and put HiBeams or Rotos On the D and G? Tunes like Shaky Ground would work, and the lows would stay smooth. Thoughts? I have no idea what that would be like, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. With the B string you can just play high up on the neck to keep you from missing that flat D string. The only thing that might not sound good to you is when you go to slap one of those flats (it might sound a bit uneven or dead compared to the hi beams). Or it might sound really cool like that. Give it a shot and let us know what you think. If you don't like it, you might want to try some fresh bright flats with some nickel rounds. |
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Post by Nukes on Jan 30, 2016 18:08:54 GMT
Im ok with the sound and feel of thumbslapped flats.
But by the time im popping the D And G, it feels like shit and sounds like shit to me.
A popped D And G flat really bum me out!
The feel would be wierd.
Filter is an interesting idea.
What effect would make dead flats sound like rounds?
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Post by OOD on Jan 30, 2016 18:19:29 GMT
Im ok with the sound and feel of thumbslapped flats. But by the time im popping the D And G, it feels like shit and sounds like shit to me. A popped D And G flat really bum me out! The feel would be wierd. Filter is an interesting idea. What effect would make dead flats sound like rounds?I've never had any luck with making flats sound like rounds; even new flats. I would try EQing rounds to sound like flats. To me, it seems to be easier to remove highs than add them. |
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Post by Nukes on Jan 30, 2016 18:45:00 GMT
There are halfrounds, also called groundrounds lol.
They rip up my fingers.
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Post by Nukes on Jan 30, 2016 18:52:37 GMT
Ooh! Basstringsonline has D'addario Half Round 5s for about $30.
Anyone got $30? Lol!
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Post by Strider on Jan 30, 2016 19:10:28 GMT
Those D'Addario half rounds are shite. All the negatives of flats and rounds, none of the positives.
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Post by OOD on Jan 30, 2016 19:34:34 GMT
Those D'Addario half rounds are shite. All the negatives of flats and rounds, none of the positives. I heard this from others, but I've never tried them. You got any experience with the GHS Bright Flats? |
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Post by Strider on Jan 30, 2016 19:42:00 GMT
Those D'Addario half rounds are shite. All the negatives of flats and rounds, none of the positives. I heard this from others, but I've never tried them. You got any experience with the GHS Bright Flats? Afraid not, just the D'Addarios. |
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Post by will33 on Feb 8, 2016 19:25:36 GMT
I don't see a problem mixing them, though if the tensions are vastly different, it may need a little setup tweaking. Maybe a little time to let the neck settle into this new setup.
As far as the filter thing, I think you'd have far better luck trying to make rounds sound more like flats as you'd be removing some upper harmonics and tweaking the relationship of lower ones, all of which are present in the string sound.
Going the other way, trying to make a dead flat sound more like a round, would amount to trying to add information there just isn't enough of there to work with in the source signal to begin with.
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Post by Nukes on Feb 8, 2016 19:31:37 GMT
Im gonna try it. Two single rounds are cheap.
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Post by will33 on Feb 8, 2016 20:43:02 GMT
I admittedly can't slap worth a damn, but I'd be interested how it works out.
Be nice to get what you want right from the strings rather than carefully setting up multiple filters to make one string mimick another, only to have to keep tweaking knobs as they will invariably get bumped moving gear.
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Post by Nukes on Mar 24, 2016 20:54:03 GMT
K i went with "Da Ghetto" mixed set.
Labella Jamerson .135 monel wire B.
Pyramid Gold flat longscale E and A, .100 .80 I think.
All used, all on this bass before.
And the DR Hi Beams that have been on at least 6 months for the D and G.
B sounds like shit unless i roll the tone off, which is the point of R&B from the 60s, bass which sounds like bass.
I can up the game on this B string tho.
Watch me.
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Post by Nukes on Mar 24, 2016 23:29:00 GMT
B string settled in after about 5 minutes.
Im gonna go out on a limb and say mixed rounds and flats is the smartest string combination i have ever tried.
ALMOST gets me to 1 bass to rule them all, except for fretless.
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